I purchased crocodile hides from Mr. Swan of Aztecan Leather Empire. I was told by Mr. Swan that the only way he could accept payment was Western Union. I knew better but like a fool wired him the money. He will not answer my phone calls or return emails since I wired the money to him. I am pasting below a few of the emails to and from Mr. Swan in the begining of this transaction. Anyone having any information about the where abouts of Mr. Swan please contact me at wwatsoniii@triad.rr.com.
Carolyn, I do totally understand your caution.I also got hit from some scammer off a deal over the internet. I am sorry the other banking situation with the credit card option I am setting up can't be used yet. I need to do some "in person" business before it is activated and I am not ready yet with what I'm doing down here to go home quite yet. Besides it doesnt appear to want to stop snowing and I am really enjoying the weather while I'm down here. Here is all you need for order confirmation. As soon as I get a tracking number Ill forward it out to you so you can breath a little easier. Thanks for the understanding and willingness to trust a little. I assure you I make no buisness of bad buisness. lol I already have everything all set and ready to go for you. The skins will go out sometime tomorrow before noon.Thanks again.WesternUnion is preferred payment. Please deduct this fee for the transfer from Grand total.There are WU payment centers in nearly every grocery however if you have any trouble finding one, or wish to use a charge card the number to call is 1800 367-2274.The only information you will need is name and location.You will receive a 10 digit confirmation number.Be sure it is correct please.
Name :Richard Swan City :Tijuana State :BajaCaliforniaNorth, MX
Currently we are in the middle of having our website done which will have an on site credit card shopping cart feature which should be completely operational by the end of the month.Sorry for any inconvenience. If you have any problems or questions don't hesitate to call. Thanks much, Rich
- Show quoted text -On Dec 17, 2007 8:18 PM, Carolyn and Butch Watson < wwatsoniii@triad.rr.com> wrote:
Richard we were ripped off for 4800.00 awhile back and it has made me really leery. I do need these hides and I guess I will take the chance with western union. Please send me all of the information I need to wire you the money. Thanks Butch
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Swan
To: Carolyn and Butch Watson
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Highrollers Cycle Seats
Please tell Butch I got his msg but am in the factory and cannot get away at the moment to call him back. I was on a lunch break earlier and away from the bldg. Right now things are just too hectic. WesternUnion is the only way I can accept payment right now sorry for any inconvenience. FYI they accept any card you may wish to use.
I should have the site up by the first of the year with my own credit card option. Again I apologize. Paypal was what I had used for 3 years until I just got fed up with their incapacity to provide good service. Ever since they have solidified their little online monopoly they seem to cause as many troubles as they help. Anyways I completely understand your inhibitions. Thanks anyways. If you do decide to use your card with WU I will have your hornbacks out to you in the first postal pick up tomorrow. Otherwise Ill try and remember this and shoot you a msg when everything is all ready on the other site. Thanks,Rich
On Dec 17, 2007 5:29 PM, Carolyn and Butch Watson <wwatsoniii@triad.rr.com> wrote:
Rich I am not questioning your integrity in any way but do not feel safe wiring money to someone I have never done business with before. I prefer to use my credit card paying you directly so I have the protection they provide. Please let me know when you get your website up and running and I will begin ordering from you at that time.
From: Richard Swan
To: Carolyn and Butch Watson
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Highrollers Cycle Seats
Butch & Carolyn, Guys I tried calling you and got the machine. I just wanted you to know everything is all set for you. The 1800 number is no longer in our service. sorry our phone is 206 203 2047 thanks. Don't forget to deduct the transfer cost. Thanks, Rich
On Dec 18, 2007 1:14 PM, Richard Swan <aztecanleatherempire@gmail.com> wrote:
Butch I just called up there and straightened it all out for you. I figured you may have wanted the "hornback caiman". Sorry I wasn't able to check my email all day I've been on the plant floor, and just now noticed your email. I am just waiting for the 10 digit code you should get back when you confirm your order we may still be able to get it sent out in the last post pick up. However they are 2 hrs ahead so it may be too late by the time you get back at me to confirm.WesternUnion accept credit card so it should take little time to process. Thanks,Rich
On Dec 17, 2007 11:09 AM, Carolyn and Butch Watson < wwatsoniii@triad.rr.com> wrote:
Richard this is Butch again. I forgot to mention I need hornbacks. I hope that is what you have. If so will you go ahead and give the ok to dye the brown hide today. I got to thinking the finish on the two will be closer if you dye it. I will pay you by credit card as soon as I receive your number. I use elephant as well as other exotics on our seats and am in the process of getting set up to make belts. I will be doing more business with you in the future. Do you have any color sample swatches to sell
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Swan
To: Carolyn and Butch Watson
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Highrollers Cycle Seats
Highroller Cycle Seat:
Seasons Greetings ! I noticed your email stated a sent date/time from 6-7pm yesterday evening,but was received today at around 4:30pm.I attempted calling you a couple times 336-788-4842 , but there were no answers each time. Originally I had thought you were a regular customer of mine in Chico,CA. However when I tried calling up there I quickly found out I was mistaken. lol I wanted to let you know I do have one Croc in BLK with a 50cm spec,but the only other one I have currently in stock up there in that size range is in Dk brown and we will have to dye it for you. Of course there will be no addl charge, but please be aware that it will take an extra day to process it. Just so your schedule is aware. Shipping time is usually only 3 or 4 days though to your neck of the woods though. As I mentioned currently I am on the road down at the "LeatherTrends" Furniture manufacturing plant finishing up on their Macy's line. My family owns/operates a tannery located in Chi.Ill which is where the hides ship from though. If there is anything wrong that you are unhappy with the skins for ANY REASON at all just ship them back to the return address. This however is a very rare occurrence, all my hides are of the absolute high quality. Don't forget we also carry beautiful genuine elephant. Thank you very much for your order !!!
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WesternUnion is preferred payment. Please deduct this fee for the transfer from Grand total.There are WU payment centers in nearly every grocery however if you have any trouble finding one, or wish to use a charge card the number to call is 1800 367-2274.The only information you will need is name and location.You will receive a 10 digit confirmation number.Be sure it is correct please.
Name :Richard Swan City :Tijuana State:BajaCaliforniaNorth, MX
Currently we are in the middle of having our website done which will have an on site credit card shopping cart feature which should be completely operational by the end of the month.Sorry for any inconvenience. If you have any problems or questions don't hesitate to call. Thanks much, Rich
On Dec 16, 2007 6:58 PM, Carolyn and Butch Watson < wwatsoniii@triad.rr.com> wrote:
I need two nice black crocs in the 47 - 50 cm range. If you have them I will order tomorrow
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Swan
To: Carolyn and Butch Watson
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Highrollers Cycle Seats
Yes I carry croc as mentioned. How big did you want ? All hides ship out of a tannery in Chi.ILL
but my current location is Tijuana,MX. I'm on loan working with the UK furniture manufacturing plant "LeatherTrends" on a line for Macy's next season. Let me know what you wanted and Ill generate the invoice for you. --
